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Starting Y: 2020 Year in Review & Technology Innovation in 2021

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In this episode, Michelle and Jorn chat about what they have learned in 2020 and what they are expecting in 2021 in terms of technological changes and innovation in 2021. 

Hello everyone, this is Joe from starting why, and I once again joined here by lovely Michelle. Hey, how are you doing there? I'm doing good. Hello, good morning and good night. Good evening. Yes, exactly. You have morning in California and for me here close to Frankfurt, it's already evening. It's past seven PM. So that officially, I do believe, Countess evening. We've been up to you, as since our last podcast, I've done a lot of things. I just hosted a digital governance conference yesterday. It was very inspiring to see a lot of young people really into incorporation and organization and how they are governed. Surprisingly, surprisingly so. We actually at the way that episode, which will be aired close to the holiday. So happy holidays. Marry Christmas. Who One of them marry Christmas? Happy Holidays, Shann Dante Kowala. Yes, here we go. Yea, everything's fine, Philice, not me that. Yes, police, never days. Okay, great, I think. I think we have most of the people on Earth covered by now. We do, so let's get a little bit together. When we've been preparing for this episode, we talked about what we what we've learned in two thousand and twenty what are some things you have learned in two thousand and twenty besides being very important to have a lot of a toilet paper at home all the time. It was really interesting. I think I learned a lot. I first I'm really grateful for just being able to go outside, just really simple things in life, having dinner with my friends, being able to go from one place or another, because I don't know if you know, but California we have another lockdown starting Sunday, Las Sunday to January. Four of the curfews ten PM, so you can...

...go out unless you're essential, and it seems like a lot of some of my friends have gotten covid who travel a lot, or or we're traveling just bye covid so it seems like it's becoming more serious. So that's like one of the biggest thing I learned is just being grateful for Beby, been able to go outside. Okay, here in Germany we only do have a partial log down. That means basically all the venues, the bars, the restaurants, they are closed, but you can still go out at any time. Cinema so close as well. Most of the restaurants will offer some kind of pickup solutions, but the bars, as far as I understand it, a completely locked down. So basically I have not personally been out, I do belief, since June Jan this year, for half year, and I actually don't miss it because we do have about canny and I get a get outside, yeah, my pipe or my cigar and everything's fine, and I try to do a small walk every day after lunch. Yeah, in California it was a little bit different because, besides the pandemic, we also had protests and fires. You just don't know what's going to happen the week actor so it's a little bit different. There were a lot of crimes actually as well, so you just don't just don't know. So I was basically at home for the longest time where I was making zoom backgrounds for fun and send it out to people because I couldn't had meetings pictures on it because I didn't have any. And so one of the thing I did was it was hope zoom meeting just on zoom backgrounds, and that was a lot of fun. So it's just just a lot of things in life, you know, and I think even at the conference yesterday it's hard to capture memories when all you see is a screen of different people. We had an event, but we can't...

...take pictures and the screenshots are really different. The interaction is completely different. Yeah, I do believe two thousand and twenty basically changed the way we interact in general, not not only that you are forced to be more and more digital, but also that you appreciate more to be meet in person. And I personally do have the actually the wist an article that I shared on social media like beginning of this week. Yeah, meet Michelle is just wearing customer and I do believe she's trying to look like an evoc yeah, it's been cold so and more like an Eskimo now as she can. Article about a start up, because here in the eupean union you can acclaim compensation for the late flights and stuff like that, and there was like a big founding of startups who actually buy those claims and then try to get the money out of the airlines, like in bulk, and those startups. One of them talked about expecting to be commercial, commercial flights back to the previous levels only in two thousand and twenty four. I'm not so sure about that because first I do believe a lot of the people interested like hotels, then you owners, people who make their living on having one of several events a year. All those people are really interested in picking up the pace again where they left off, or even speed it up. To make up Philoso, as well as all the people who have been like around the lockdown, wherever stranded they are, I do believe he on traveling again. Yeah, at least that, as long as it is safe. Yeah, actually, I was kind of a little bit grateful that I didn't that there was a break from traveling, because I think the last two years I've been traveling a lot. Those kind...

...of Nice to be grounded, to be to be home. I'm grateful for that. So it's just it's just that I want a balance of some sort where we can actually if we could go to the movies and do nor more things with friends, that would be pretty awesome. Like having dinner going to the movies zoom is so different. To have it one or two times as cool, but to do it all the time it's's something else. I do believe you'll see significant changes in the movie industry in the next few years, because many big movies have been held back but basically they have to take into account that something like this made be for another disease or something could happen again. So basically, I do believe almost all of the big on small studios will have some type of plan in the draw starting like next summer. What will happen if there's not a lockdown? And I do believe you will see a lot of movies who will be actually made for streaming services, like it used to be made for made for DVD or, before that, made for VHS. And I do believe you'll see more of those made for string services, not only but also including by guy slid neckflix and Amazon. Yeah, yeah, I think, I think, I mean, I think that works, is but it's a still different. I mean, I want my pop points and I actually have have microwave popcorn. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's true to somebody I've gotten is something I gotten used to during the pandemic, but it's it's not the same. About you, like what are you? What have you learned this year? How much fun and fun time you can actually have with the family? Because I've been basically locked down more or less since summer because I came back from my paternal leave and then no project, then no job, and so basically I was home for like...

...half a year and I got to spend a lot of time with my small baby boy and my wife, and everything's fine. I've really enjoyed the time, but I'm also looking forward, like to go out for restaurant I love, in in Chinese food, go to the movie, see good movie, a meet with friends in a bar again and something like this. That is something I haven't had for quite some time. I do believe the first facts nations will start pretty soon, but I'm not sure if we will see big changes, like in your lifestyle, like wearing masks and stuff like this, at least until summer. And when this all broke out, I already told my mom were only going to celebrate Christmas two thousand and twenty one normally again. And Yeah, and you believe that still holds true for the US. So it's important, hollow and should be normal again, thanksgiving and Christmas. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, I do Miss Halloween as well. It's completely interesting. I mean I think one of the the other thing I learned is that when there's an emergency, people could invade and they innovate really fast. And I think that's a good thing. It was really surprising how fast this vaccine came along. Right the the fastest I've heard of was four years for the development and for the vaccination of Corona. I've heard from the company close to here. It's called bio and take their work together with fiser, and they were they've been very good articles in the Washington Post in New York Times about the couple news heading this company and they actually started, like really working on this sometime in February two thousand and twenty and they actually have an emergency proved vaccine nation sometime end of the year, December. That's really, really fast. Yeah, that's exciting. Even for our radio show, we were doing it physically, where we physically go into the Sanford radio station it.

Since I was traveling a lot, I was really wishing that we could also do additionally four times when I was away, and you know, that wasn't possible. Until the pandemic we were on lockdown this all the stand for the whole entire staffer campus, once on lockdown and even until afterward, where we created a system just for us to upload our episode to the station. So that was really cool. I think because of emergency. I think all this to come together and have creative way to collaborate and make innovation that makes it possible. HMM. I actually have been a little bit of had because before now I was not running started break it all and full time, but I was actually more or less running as a part time business, part time hobby. But actually turn out that it was easier for me to really have remote only recordings, which I started to do, I do believe, some time in two thousand and eight teen. But still a lot of people wanted me to stop buying person but that's something that really changed and I do believe remote recordings are now, let's say, state of the art. They they won't be as good as when you were are there in person with a dedicated camera, men or woman, or something like a k camera or bad ass big TV camera, but yeah, you can still watch it. It's still not totally crap. So technology is there. I do believe if you would have something like this pandemic like a hundred years ago, the picture would be completely different. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I don't mind. I mean, I think, I think one of the thing that I learned is, you know, also food, you make awesome food. So in two thousand and twenty so I don't know how to cook, and it's not because I'm lazy, but it's just because I've never had time to learn to make food.

This year I was eating basically I go to drive those two times a day. I don't go out and the only time ago out did drive do because we got a safe way. If you really think about it, everyone would go to the supermarket to get food and I thought the safest way for me is to just go to drive to. I don't have to go to the grocery to buy food. I don't touch anyone. It's completely contactless. I mean people wear gloves and they give you a trade to get your food. However, was destroying my skin. My skin is pretty good normally. One day I was just like, okay, I can't eat this anymore and one of my friends suggested I buy air fire and that change my entire getting food strategy. Top the CONAS that I need to go to the grocery store to buy debt me, the Poe is that I can experiment with food so and I can eat a variety of different healthy food. So I'm really excited about that. I guess I learned how to Cook during the pandemic. It's an important skill. It is, especially if you're doing it really good and you make people happy with it, then it's the best skill ever. We've been talking a little bit about my prediction Halloween two thousand and twenty one will be normal again. What are you predictions for something like next year? I think for the most part it will be the same. I think people are still going to work from home. I think we're from home for companies is going to be more acceptable than ever. I'm a lot of bit hybrid on the idea. I've worked from home since I was a professional because I work at some companies like Cisco, where we could work from home, but I've also managed people who working from home, who said they're working from home but they are not there and you kind of know. I think it's going to be really interesting to focus on the work products and I think workflow management.

Companies and tools my do better. I think networking is difficult. It is more difficult when meeting people virtually at different conferences. You can dropped a twitter or something on zoom or whatever the conference thing is, but still it's hard to follow up. So I think we have to move beyond just conferences in APP but apps that or tools and technology that allow people to connect and to network. Yes, I do believe the importance of person networking. It's something we've seen in two thousand and twenty one. But actually, I do believe we will see significant changes in the area of first business travel, because people realize you can do a lot of work remotely, not only in terms of working in a permanent job, but also in terms of project work, in terms of coding, in terms of consulting and stuff like this, which will lead to a job in business. Trouble, not true. How much? Maybe five percent, maybe twenty percent. And I do believe you'll see significant changes in commercial real estate, because I've seen an analysis somewhere in Bloomberg with a guess that a large chunk like ten twenty percent of the commercial real estate won't be needed in the future when many companies do have a work from home policy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think land is really expensive and there are a lot of people who are stuck with the least with a commitment, and that's really hard to maintain when your workforce is everywhere. And I think time management is going to be really important. I think one of the challenges I had when organizing conferences it's the time. Some people are in other time zone and we need to basically convert them. Getting that right it's going to be super, super awesome. HMM. Do you think there will be...

...new business models coming out of this recession, like hundred percent remote consulting platforms or stuff like that? Yeah, I've been consulting everywhere and people are kind of used to that. Like, I work at Air BOT lot. I work at airports a lot. When I'm waiting for my flights, I would be there. There's a lot. They're really good Wifi. Usually you just have to worry about security. Make sure that you have your protect it. Young Wow y'all, he loves food. You follow his instagram account. He has just incredible pictures of food that he makes from scratch. Yeah, including homemade ice cream scream. Yes, they will be a lot more coming in the future, like cinnamon ice cream. There's a German type of mud one where. Gave you the recipe on Instagram and actually I going to try to turn this into ice for the doubt only, of course, but wow, wow, wow. I took a cooking class at Berkeley, at kitchen on fire. Even though I don't know how to cook, I do love cooking class because you go there and you eat and then you bring a bottle wide with you. So there was one day where we make FRY bananas. When you make the crystalized sugar, yeah, Caramel, Caramel, oh my gosh, that is yummy. And so that's why you take cooking classes, so you can eat, but it's the transformation of the sugar was really awesome. Yes, it is there and there's a lot that gets better if if you cook, boil or whatever, do with it, put it in your off and that's always very good. Why do we always end up at food? Food is relatable, like I love food. I don't know what you because food is one of the things that I learned. The shares food before. I think I'm pretty good at tasting food. I'm an expert at tasting food. My brother owns a cafe shop and he is a professional chef. So...

...when he ever he has some inspiration, I'm called to taste different place of food and give feedback. Now, because the pandemic, I actually get to experiment with different food, with technology such as an air fire and it's pretty awesome that that they've made it so easy to turn things just to you just talkle a few things and you get edible food in ten minutes and and they it tastes really good. So I haven't had like them some for a long time, so I was like missing it. So I want to traders show and get packaged things and put it in the air fire and and there, there it goes. It was. It was really yummy. As humans, I think food is really important and that a friend and he has a food nonprofit. So he is selling food for a reduced costs to people, for people who can afford to eat, which is super awesome. I think just last Sunday, I want to make Tamali's is for a homeless person. We made like thirty six the moments to really see technology that a laws for connecting people over food. That's just really cool. And so one of the question is really how can we make food assessible to all, to everyone? In Africa there are a lot of people who don't have food. I think in the US that we can buy anything we want it, but there are countries who doesn't even have the Internet, who doesn't have food will listen hunger. So it's something that I'm really grateful for and I think is kind of cool that we talked about it. Will it be all soft in two thousand and twenty one or maybe be? May Take a day or more longer. I think in two thousand and twenty one I would love to see more drive to restaurants because, like, the drive to is all fast food now and they do really well because the line is really long. That I goes in and out, like is literally so long that it's out in the street, in a parking lot, like it goes beyond the parking line the streets and in and out. The people that are really smart, they actually got away to...

...shorten the line where they would order like they have a cash person outside and they would be route the waiting line for the cars. I thought that was really cool. However, we don't have real food yet for for drive do. So what if we could order German kind of food, French food, Chinese food, like just do drive do. That would be awesome. We don't have to go in, we can just pick up food. I have through for normal restaurants. That will be the innovation of two thousand and twenty one. I do believe those. Well, yes, I know we have delivery, but that's different because you have to pay a lot of kips. I think. No, I don't mind going out. I don't want people to know where you live. So I think drive to offer some kind of privacy and you could kind of go out a little bit, you know, so that are just staying home all day. If there would be video podcast, people could tell where you live in, because the background chose obviously the main hall of the Monsters Incorporated, where they have all the doors where they get into the closets of the children. Right. Yes, yes, yes, also, also, I was living in I had a star wars backgrounds before and people always like work that and then I was just like, I think, since I cat star wars exactly exactly. It was really interesting. HMM. But sometimes my background is really baffle people. Like I had one like Matrix, like people were like what is that, and I think it says data. It's like Matrix Green with like data on it, which is really representative of now where everything is ai driven, words data driven, and they know everything about us and our data is mine. It is really interesting and maybe we also give our audience and outlook of what they can look for like the next year. I do believe we will have ten to twelve episodes, you and me talking, drifting into talking about food technology, government at the world in general. I do believe we'll do a few guests interviews in...

...two thousand and twenty one and we have no idea yet what will be our continent twenty twenty one, but be sure that we have it figured out, let's say, end of June. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm really excited about working alway strong on this. I'm am looking forward to next year and to really growing in terms of content. I'm thinking besides us talking about analogy and food, I think the intention of it is really understanding why people start the things that they do. I think we're going to get a lot of that, since that's the focus and since both of us have John has his started radio. I had LAPTOT radio. This is so funny, which is a which is shown called our joint podcast, not a radio exactly, starting white radio exactly this. It's really hilarious. Since both of us have a podcast radio. Outside of this, we're gonna focus on really getting stories of why people start to things that they do, and I think that will be really, really exciting. So I think we will interview hijacks on why they start the things that they do and and sometimes, yeah, sometimes, I think we're going to do it separately and sometimes we'll do it together. I think that works. Of course. Would also be of interest for me is if the people who started stuff and they are successful not only why did they start, but they understand why they are successful. What is the main drivee. Of the main leverage? Yeah, I think why someone is successful is also something that's really interesting, because it seems like someone who is talented may not be successful and someone who actually who may not be that talented, could be successful. I think it's just really something that is super you're interesting...

...to look into. You mean not talented successful as Instagram influencers? Yeah, friends are really successful, even though they didn't go to college. Your high school jobouts who are millionaires. And if you're man Eric, as you you're successful. And I think the social construct a society and the way society wants you to go could be different from how the person sees success as well. So success doesn't have to be defined by numbers, it doesn't have to be a have x number of instagram followers or twitter followers. It could be what and how you define your success. I'm a little bit turned off by by society and famous people and how they look at numbers, like, Oh, I'm not going to talk on your show because you have five listeners. Wanted to look at the stepstance. If you want us to chat with you on the show, we're not going to reject you, or at least I wouldn't, because you have five followers on twitter. I think what we're looking for is substance. Why you started something and there's a substantial reason for this, story behind that, and also you know if you're successful, and you're successful not just because of your numbers. Are Not because of your numbers of socials. What if you basically had volunteered and that do a hundred people or something in Africa, or even thirty people born in Africa, but in doing so, say you don't have any money, you're like eleven years old or something, and somehow you did that. I think it's really the story and effort that we wanted to hear and listen to. Yes, there's something I would add to that. I only had the thought in my mind that you measure success by like millions fall of wars, likes and stuff like this, because it's number and this is very easy to compare. Yeah, yeah, I...

...mean, I think so that I don't want people to to, you know, get turned off if they don't have the numbers, but I think it's someone has done a project that is like changing the war in a different way yet haven't had the numbers. So who? I think I will be interesting and hearing the story of how you did it. I met incredible people who might not be social, I guess, but have done awesome work. There are a lot of geniuses around the world. They're not the most social. They could be shy, either like im TJ or something. They don't like being on twitter social media, they don't have a podcast or not on Youtube, but they've done awesome work to better the world and therese are some of the stories that would probably wanted to listen to and here and talk about. Yes, that's actually also what's interesting for me. Plus, I have been interviewing I just when we've been recalling this on the December nine, two thousand and twenty, I've been just uploading my two hundred and fourteen episode of my podcast, which means I have like more than two hundred interviews with founders, entrepreneurs and startups in Germany, and would also be interested, curious in looking out into like other markets. Yeah, some people from the US, from Germany and the crossier, but I would also be interested in interviewing entrepreneurs from different markets. By accident, for example, I once had an interview with a start up from Madagascar. Yeah, yeah, I think we wanted to really listen to stories from around the world and meet, I personally Adise, a number companies that are located from all around the world. So, you know, one project is from Argentina, one is from Panama. It's been really fun and I think it's kind of like important for us to be more global, especially the pandemic doesn't only care where we live or who we are...

...and how do we look like, and I think we need to really realize that where there's a point where we collaborate and share stories, and sometimes it's really hard to have a project and and have it successful by yourself. Sometimes you need to work with other people and collaborate with other people to make it successful. It takes like a village, some dough I'm just making a generalization and I know that, but I just wanted to say that sometimes it takes a whole village to allow that project to secede, to push it forward and the other side to pull it forward as well. So just to add dimensions to it. If that would be video podcast, people would see me nodden. I totally agree here. Actually, there will be also something of interest for me like also interviewing like non for profit from all across the world, ng all stuff like this that he normally don't get to know that much, only on like dedicated channels and that have a few subscribers. But we want to make it a little bit broader here. Right. I assume we don't have an issue with, for example, interviewing a billionaire, but we also don't have an issue with interviewing the founder of NGO somewhere. We want foundation and NGOs to be to be heard as well, because these are people who spent their lives making the world better place. If you're basically somewhere making energy more efficient for people. And now thinking about some of my friends and India, they actually want the xpress for the security one. They make a necklace for woman to wear around their neck so there's an emergency, they would push a button and the people would come to help. I'm also thinking about the clear water projects. I think that makes water for people in Africa. Those are really cool and some examples of things that people are doing around the world. I was actually working on digital education or more privately, to help people...

...learn. It's part of e learning and I've been kind of doing that like the last couple years, or privately for people who buy tutor for APA biology and a history in English. I think I would like love to actually do that beyond what I was doing for the students. Another thing that I was really affected, I guess, since I talked to you young, that I wanted to mention is I was a little bit depressed that Tony Shay died. He's an entrepreneur who found a yapples that was sold to Amazon, and I remember I was at paypal and the Ebay Foundation had a speaker series where they invited Tony Sheha to speak about entrepreneurship and the book the pursuit of happiness is actually given to me by the Ebay Foundation. One of my goal when I left paypal is to like I had a dream of meeting Tony Shay in person one day and actually a few weeks ago was thinking about interviewing him on the podcast and about one or two weeks ago he passed away. There was a fire and he passed away and on Linkedin there were a number of people talking about him and then I was relieving about mental wellness, you know, like health and wellness for people, because you could be a billionaire, but money doesn't really make you happy. Money is awesome and it's kind of fund circulating it. However, that's not happiness as tool. One thing I really realize about this year for me personally, is how could I help in wellness. I've done some videos on instagram about it, but Tony's death really inspire me to see and hear more of like wellness programs and people really doing great things around the area. We can talk about that, because I think starting something, starting why, takes a lot of mental health. Right. Starting a project, a compunity took a lot of courage and good we would love to hear stories of how you overcome that, because I think a lot of us found companies and start companies despite our depression and our mental health and affairs. It will be awesome. If you have a story, reach out to us.

Yes, exactly. Reach out to us and we will schedule an interview and we let the world know about awesome. Awesome. I do believe that everything we have to say for now. Hope. So, wishing you Americ Christmas happening year for by nothing good. Watch and hope to hear again next year. A bye,.

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